He sounded amazing, and his whole rig probably could have been replaced for well under a grand. I already have another guitar (Ibanez like) (HSH) made in Agathis with a better finish than the squire, and almost a better sound !! Probably a classic vibe, and another vintage modified. Even we veteran players can be tempted by Squier: They make some great-looking instruments, and the prices are unbeatable. The bridge has been upgraded to a 2-point tremolo, a significant improvement over the 6-screw vintage bridges on past Mexican-made Fenders. So, if you were to stick with it as your main instrument you'd be fine. Also, I don't know how accessible they are over there, but maybe keep an eye out for good deals on MIM and MIJ Fenders. Squier by Fender is a guitar company that builds instruments intended for beginners and musicians on a budget. Learn more about Fender electric basses. There's a lot of snobbery surrounding the whole Squier Strat vs Fender Strat comparison. Stratocaster vs Telecaster: The History. For example, the bodies of guitars built in Mexico are typically formed by gluing many more pieces of wood together compared to models made in the United States. Remember that you can swap out pickups or other parts and upgrade your Squier. I am looking for an Alder one. In short, if you can't afford the MIA, save the extra couple hundred bucks on the MIM and go for the Classic Vibe. The moral of the story? The specs for the neck are the same as for the American Strat but don’t expect the same high-quality woods here, or the same attention to detail in the finishing. That's why, even with $1000+ guitars, it's important to try out several models in store if you can. I am a beginner in guitar playing and Squier guitars. Well, let me tell you a little anecdote that might bring some clarity. In my experience they sound and play like more expensive guitars. The Mexican factories are known to be “better” than the USA factories in terms of value per price. That's why many people start off with these kind of guitars (like me). These are great instruments for the money, but still quite a bit more expensive than a Squier. Fender/Squier vs. Gibson/Epiphone Discussion in 'Squier Stratocasters' started by juks, Nov 23, 2020. Pickups are Fender stock single-coils. Neck Scale Length: 25.5” (648 mm) 7. Sounds like you're looking for something with a solid foundation to build on, and I agree that this probably isn't an alder body. Most guitarists choose to move up to Fender because they are "better" guitars. While the price difference between the Squier and Fender stratocasters is considerably smaller than with the Epiphone and Gibson Les Pauls, there's still little doubt that the Fender name alone represents a hefty chunk of the price you pay for a Mexican and USA made Strat. Even if you can get a "project" guitar with a solid body and neck you can replace everything else gradually. Now we will move on to Squier Strats, and see how they measure up. This is where the Squier scores - seems more versatile than the Fender, ie there's a bigger difference between the bridge P/U and the neck P/U on the Squier. For beginners, either of these series makes for impressive starter guitars you may not feel you need to upgrade for a long while. Body Finish: Polyurethane 3. Agathis? If your budget is even tighter, it's definitely worth saving up for the $350-$400 CV (or find a used one) rather than blow your hard earned on the less impressive Bullet or Affinity Strat, unless you are an absolute beginner or prepared to spend time and extra money upgrading. 1. Costs are being cut more intelligently, manufacturing is cheaper and quality control has improved significantly. Let's take a closer look at how they compare... Of course, the problem with trying to make any direct comparisons between the Squier and Fender is that there are over a dozen models, each with different pickups and their own individual features. Looks like the cheapest one you can have ! Often there seems to be less attention on finish and sharper fret ends. It shows many different squier and fender models and it explains what's up with everyone. Far more likely, if you are trying to choose between Squier and Fender, you are looking at the Fender Player line, also known as the MIM Stratocaster. There’s a Classic Vibe ‘50s model and a ‘60s model, the main difference being the maple fingerboard on the ‘50s and rosewood on the ‘60s. There’s a 2-point tremolo, but it’s not the same heavy-block type seen in the American Strat. Here I have selected a Jaguar in surf green to make the comparison easier, but both are available in 3 color sunburst, and candy apple red as well. On the subject of upgrading... As with all cheap guitars, the lower cost allows you to customise and upgrade to suit your personal taste, both in look and sound. Body Material: Alder 2. As always, be sure to check with Fender’s website for the most updated info on their guitars. They are surprisingly good, and tremendous values. Because of Squier, amazing Fender designs are available to just about anyone. The most commonly bought Squiers for modding are the Bullet, Affinity (with its slimmer neck profile), Standard and Vintage Modified series (which offer humbucker/single coil configuration). The pickups are Player Series Alnico 5 single coils. Guitar Gopher is a guitarist and bassist with over 35 years of experience as a musician. I can get a huge difference in tones just by addressing the tone pots. For one thing, Squier guitars are made overseas. If not, there are other options in the Squier lineup. Who knows? Fingerboard Radius: 9.5” (241 mm) 9. I have been trying to learn the difference between the Fender Telecaster Made In Mexico and my Squire Telecaster Made In Mexico. You may want to do a little more investigation to be sure. I don't know exactly what hardware that guitar uses. You bet! The Vintage Modified and Classic Vibe Squiers are great choices for musicians who want to add another instrument to their collections without spending much money. Guitar Gopher (author) on October 22, 2014: Hi Skieur. There are dozens of newer electric basses on the market. According to your serial number your guitar should have been made in 1993, in Mexico. I own one myself and in another post, I’ve already covered the pros and cons of the Squier brand. Since Squier is owned by Fender, arguably the most successful guitar company in the world, you know when you get a Squier it is something more than an average beginner's guitar. Generally speaking, Squier uses lower-quality metals for most of its hardware. So, how much does the Player Strat resemble an American Professional Strat? It is the veterans of the guitar world, who have tried and tested gear right across the price spectrum spanning several decades, who can help to put things into perspective when it comes to weighing up the true value of these instruments, regardless of whose name is on the headstock. I think they compare favorably to MIM Fenders. That’s why we’re lucky to have brands like Squier around. That alone adds a significant premium. For anyone whose budget is under the $500 mark, assuming you don't get lucky and find a used MIA Strat for that, the Classic Vibe is the best option for an ultra playable, classic, 3 single coil Strat spec. The Affinity and Bullet series are the bottom of the Squier stable. In this article, we’ll examine how the Squier Stratocaster compares to Fender, and how different Squier series compare to each other. If you have time, you go in depth in this article: Squier vs Fender Stratocaster Guitar Review. A cheaper alternative to the MIA Fender Strat is the MIM (made in Mexico) Strat, with the Mexican Standard going for around $600 new, compared to over $1000 for the American Standard. Maybe someone who reads this will be able to tell us (please don't post a link!). Learn more about Fender electric basses. One of the most useful articles around - I think there needs to be another option for the poll - "I'm going to buy a Squier and get so good that I can justify buying an American Standard". Before choosing a guitar for playing, you need to seek those qualities what the best guitar should have. So when people talk about Squiers consisting of cheaper materials, taking the parts individually it's more subtle than you might think. Pick Ups On the Fender Squier Affinity Strat vs Yamaha Pacifica . More importantly, remember that the sound is about you, not the guitar. It will not sound as good as a Fender Stratocaster, but if you are a beginner or on a tight budget it will do the job. Basswood body 2. As the name suggests, Squier is a brand owned by Fender, one of the most influential guitar builders in the world. . Modders favour Squiers because they provide a solid foundation on which to build a premium quality instrument, for hundreds less than your big brand custom shop axes. I heard that Squiers weren't built to last long unlike Fenders which are built to be your lifelong companions. There's a lot of snobbery surrounding the whole Squier Strat vs Fender Strat comparison. As the materials and construction on newer Squiers are of generally decent quality, they provide a solid platform for customisation. But I’m not going to say they are on-par with Fender instruments either, and there are good reasons to choose either brand. It has gotten a tremendously positive reception since unveiled a few years back. By the following year, a single pickup version called the Esquire was launched. Instead, we get pau ferro to save some cost and some trees. + the Neck is "full Mapple", I like this "vintage" look ... As you said I must try it !! I have a Telecaster Squire Made In Mexico. Good luck! Nut Material: Synthetic Bo… Squier are manufactured in the Far East, where labour tends to be cheaper; Fender on the other hand are made mostly in Mexico, Japan and America – though the Modern Player range is made in China, and there have been a … But if you can’t, or just don’t feel like spending more on an instrument, don’t sweat it. We see similar specs for the neck (Deep C vs Modern C) in both measurements and build materials. Can Squier really match up to the renowned Fender quality? Keep in mind, however, that the negative generalisations that plague Squier's reputation tend to come from less experienced gear heads who are fixated with brand and image over pure playability and tone - both very subjective things. Fender acquired the Squier brand in 1965. Key elements affected by this are truss rod and bridge installation, neck joining and nut, fret and body finishing. Poplar? However, Squier's relatively new Classic Vibe series (around $200 less than the MIM) has seriously blurred the line between high-end Squier and budget Fender quality, with an evaluation of hundreds of reviews and forum comments leading to the CV earning a place on the best cheap Stratocasters page. Squier, much like Fender, has factories in the USA, Mexico, India, Indonesia, Japan, Korea, and China. They are certainly built well enough to last for decades, if you take care of them correctly. Which should you choose, Squier or Fender? The Standard Squier Stratocaster looks a whole lot like a Fender, and that’s the idea. Good luck, and be sure to post back if you find a definitive answer to your question! Instead of Alder, we see Agathis as the body material. But remember that was just to give us a look at what a Stratocaster is supposed to have going on. Still do have a few. Number of Frets: 21 10. apparently its made with Agathis (body). Both guitars are in excellent condition, properly set up and freshly strung with the same strings. Axel is demonstrating the differences between a Fender American Vintage '52 and a cheap Squier Affinity Telecaster. Looking for a beginner guitar? Have a squire with maple neck and fret board and a Floyd rose locking tremolo with Seymour Duncan pickups and my little guitar rocks. The Squier Affinity comes with the classic Fender single coil pickups that Fender is known for. Squier Fender Bronco Bass is a very popular option at the bottom of the price range. 22 frets 5. When we ask how good Squier guitars are compared to Fenders we end up with the answer Fender probably wants. You can check out an in-depth overview of how the American Strat compares to the MIM Strat in build, quality, and sound in this review. but came with downgraded components, which allowed them to be sold at a cheaper price point. Paul Davids compares his $3,500 Fender Custom Shop Cunetto Relic/John Cruz to his $150 Squier Strat Affinity (currently retailing for around $200). Good luck with your decision! Gibson filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy. Over the years, Fender’s plans for Squier models have changed greatly, and if you’re interested in Squier History, I recommend Tony Bacon’s book “Squier Electrics”. The pickups are listed as Custom Vintage-Style Single-Coil Strat pickups for both the ‘50s and ‘60s Vintage Modified. As the Stratocaster has become one of, if not the most iconic guitars of all time, there's a lot of weight behind the Fender brand from its prestigious history. One is a Squier Standard (Indonesia) and the other is a Fender Standard (Mexico)! But it's a Strat and regarding to the price, I can try a little upgrade. the Fender Stratocaster is one of the best electric guitars of all time, and it has been around since the 1950s. The guitar is far away from home and I can't test it. The Classic Vibe series is also a strong modding platform, but being the most expensive Strat in the Squier range, there is more emphasis on its stock (factory) quality. Was this helpful? There was a retrospective golden era for Squier during the 80s with their Japanese JV and SQ models. Overall this leaves us with an excellent Strat similar to an American but for a fraction of the price. Thx for answering GG. It’s a real Stratocaster, but with some corners cut to make it more affordable. Vintage Modified and Classic Vibe Squiers. This is a good thing because it not only means Squier is able to build faithful renditions of Fender classics like the Stratocaster, Telecaster, Jazz Bass and Precision Bass, but also that everything Squier does needs to be up to Fender’s high standards. Styles Classic Vibe Vs Mexican Strat. Advanced guitarists can make a Squier sound better than any Fender. By 1982, Fender rebranded Squier as started using the subsidiary as a way to produce low-cost guitars and basses following the same Fender designs. surf green Bullet body thickness is 1.72" sunburst Bullet body thickness is 1.74" white Bullet body thickness is 1.69" my 1994 MIM has a body thickness of 1.83" my MIJ SQ-series Squier is 45mm thick, or 1.77" Affinity Strat is 42mm or 1.65" The Fender Squier is an excellent collection of perfect parts and accessories that engages better sound quality with mahogany back and sides. Check out this comparison between two awesome Strats! Neck Material: Maple 4. In other words, if you were to upgrade some hardware and electronics your Squier MIM would be equivalent to an MIM Standard from the same era. When producing in the numbers Squier do (technically Fender, since they own Squier), even what would be under a dollar's worth of saving on, say, an output jack or thinner wiring, works out hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of saving over a year of production and hundreds of thousands of guitars. Apples and oranges come to mind. I'm seeing a lot of speculation, but no real definitive references to Squier by Fender MIM specs from 1993-94. Obviously you wouldn't be able to switch the 6-point vintage trem for a 2-point without a little work, but otherwise I think you'll be okay. Ultimately it boils down to choice. Another factor to consider, and probably the most important, is the method of construction of an electric guitar. Squier Classic Vibe 60s Stratocaster. It could be useful for futures conversations. Otherwise, we’re back to an alder body with a maple neck and a 21-fret fingerboard and a vintage bridge. 5. Even light upgrades, such as new pickups, electronics, bridge, tuners etc. Fender Player guitars and basses are made in Fender’s production facilities in Mexico. Many of the Fenders are chunkier at the nut, which I prefer, but other than that, it’s in the details. You can still find these going under the hammer on Ebay, but they are no longer considered true budget guitars - again, their history and reputation precedes them and inflates their value! But that doesn't mean a Squier is a bad guitar, or that you can't stick with it as your main instrument. It's in the top 3 bestselling electric basses and has dozens of popular alternatives in the same price range, such as Ibanez GSR200 or Ibanez Talman TMB100. Replacing parts on a Squier can be a tricky undertaking. So how do you choose which guitar is right for you? I've been trying to dig up some answers to your question, but the info is hard to come by. Many experienced players will tell you the quality of the MIJ (made in Japan) models was as close to the MIA (made in America) Fenders as you'll find. When Leo Fender invented the Telecaster in the early 1950s, he may not have anticipated how many similar-looking guitars would one day be on the market. Fender literally wrote the book on electric basses, laying the foundation for musical innovation and evolution. Agathis is cheap, plentiful and a decent substitute in a budget guitar. This is supported by an overall user rating of 89 for the Mexican Fender Standard and 92 for the Squier Classic Vibe. Hi. Fret Size: Medium Jumbo 11. Both guitars were made in 1997, and the Squier was Davids’ first electric guitar. This saves on labor costs and brings down the price of the guitar. What started out as Fender’s ‘premium’ range made by Squier, the string company acquired by Fender, also had their range of cheaper versions for those that couldn’t afford the ‘real’ thing. I have been unsuccessful in obtaining any information on the Squire Telecaster MIM. It all adds up to a higher quality, impeccably finished product. Black plastic control knobs Keep reading to see where the Fender and Squier Jaguars differ. Get the best price on Squier Stratocaster at Guitar Center. Like many things in this world, we need to take a hard look to determine our best path. It changed my whole attitude towards gear. Like the Vintage Modified Series, the Squier Classic Vibe instruments have gotten a lot of love from veteran players. I used to own all kinds of expensive instruments. Rosewood is not available on the Player Series as a fretboard material. A thumbnail, rough definition would be that Bullet is the barebones model. A Brief History Lesson As the world’s first commercially successful solid-body electric guitar, the Telecaster was groundbreaking when Leo Fender introduced it in 1951.. At the time, rock and roll was still a few years away, and Leo and his staff were building guitars and amplifiers for western swing guitarists looking to get more volume and projection. Some of the Squier Strats use the same hardware as MIM Fenders and I'm thinking that is likely the case here. Also check out the Contemporary Stratocaster. From thin tones to a warmer smoother rich tone, to a bright sound. In the mean time, my thought is to play the guitar and see if you like the sound. Can anybody confirm that all the Squiers from Mexico made in the nineties are made in Agathis Bodies ??? The Classic Vibe Series is a level above most Squier instruments. Hi all, thx for this article. I measured my strats with a digital caliper. Leo Fender and his team in Fullerton, California, began work on the guitar that would become the Telecaster back in 1949. Fender guitars are amazing instruments, but don’t count out little brother Squier. So the Mexican one I found is twice and a half the price than this one, far away from home and "probably" made in agathis too. Please let others know, cheers... Get Our Deals Newsletter!Huge discounts on guitar gear. Thursday Best Carolina. 3 Single coil pickups that allow you to play a lot of unique tones. But extrapolated across the entire production quantity it all adds up and it becomes clear how Fender can afford to sell even their highest quality Squier models at less than $400 a piece. For those who can't afford the American Standard and were therefore thinking of getting the MIM, save a couple hundred more bucks, swallow some pride and go for the Classic Vibe instead. I've owned plenty of American strats and teles, as well as mim strats.. gotta say that squire has become quite an amazing guitar for the money, and even period at any price point! As for the cork sniffers who might look down on you for your Squier? I own a Squier Classic Vibe 50s and I am thinking of changing my tuning machines and bridge for Fender ones, but I also want to keep the vintage style in my guitar. The finish is crap, the painting is irregular. Neck Shape: “C” Shape 6. The Vintage Modified Series is a step up from the Standard Squier. Like in most industries, you inevitably pay in part for a name and its reputation. They are just fine for beginners, but more advanced players may want something better. Believe me, there are few things in life more beautiful than an American-made Fender guitar, except maybe a vintage American Fender guitar. Plan on picking up another squire or two. And while Fender offers a wide range of Stratocaster models perfect for a variety of playing levels and styles, Squier expands the Strat range with even more affordable and singularly dynamic alternatives to this classic design. Telecaster vs. TE. If you have the cash, I suggestion going with the Classic Vibe '50s or '60s Strat. Another option is to take the plunge on an MIM Fender, or a higher-end Squier. If you are trying to choose between Squier and Fender an American Fender is probably not even in the equation. Fender brands much of its hardware, while a majority of Squier hardware is unbranded and of dubious origin and quality. PPS (synthetic bone) nut 3. Fingerboard Material: Indian Laurel 8. The Player version has the same Alder body, but in this case with a thicker polyester finish. So a considerable difference in price, again due to cheaper labour and manufacturing outside of the States. 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